I’ll admit to having a defective faculty for speculation. It’s not in my temperament. But I completely fail to grasp the urgency with which people last night clung to the notion that Jesus was married. I laid out the reasons for thinking he wasn’t; I put the best face on the reasons for thinking he was (which amounts to almost nothing, but it’s important to acknowledge the almost part of that nothingness); and still people wanted to know, “But what if he had been married?” and (this one really gets my goat) “Can you prove that he wasn’t married?”
Well, of course I can’t prove he wasn’t married. I can’t prove he wasn’t half-man, half dolphin either. None of the sources we have mention such an oddity, but that silence can best be explained as the embarrassment that someone The Church wanted to proclaim as divine had a dorsal fin and a blowhole in the back of his head. “You don’t think they’d boast about that, do you? They suppressed all references to his dolphin characteristics. But notice — he associated with fishermen, and he had an inexplicable knowledge of where to catch the most fish even though he wasn’t a fisherman himself!”
(Later): And then there’s that “stilling the sea” thing, too.
Oh, no — I think I’ve started a sequel. . . .
Posted by AKMA at November 20, 2003 07:17 AM | TrackBackAh, yes, the silences within the text. What's not being said? Heh. I gotta read The da Vinci Code so that I can get in the loop.
Posted by: Clancy at November 20, 2003 07:41 AMorigen thought jesus was half dolphin half human.
Posted by: Trevor Bechtel at November 20, 2003 10:33 PMThis comment comes from a position of abject ignorance—I haven't opened a bible in years--but the comparison you are making is odd.
That is to say, we do know that a majority of the population both then and now are (a) married during their lifetime and (b) share no dolphinous heritage. Enlighten a former and fallen Christian: where is the evidence that Jesus was celibate? If, as you say, we are working in a vacuum of good evidence one way or another, is it not safe to assume that he lived as a man.
A better analogy may be drawn to whether Jesus laughed, something that seems to come up as an equally silly argument. Of course he laughed! Do we have any evidence of this, not really. Most depictions tend toward the serious, if not dour. And yet, we can make the assumption that he laughed because (a) that's what people do, and (b) there isn't any indication that he behaved differently.
When Jesus did behave differently, we are informed of this. Performing miracles, rising from the dead, etc.: all things the average Joe didn't do, we know.
I have a feeling that the question of whether Jesus was married is one of convention--we assume (via Paul) that within early Christian communities marriage was somewhat frowned upon. We also assume things like women waited "on table" (did that mean they cleaned up or that they ran the finances). Christ's marriage is not (just) an idle question for those who wish to model their own life on his.
Alex makes some interesting points, but somehow, I have trouble with the idea that a very significant fact such as the existence of a wife would have escaped being documented pretty clearly if it were true.
You have a point about laughter and humor. I would expect that Jesus had a good sense of humor, although I am unaware of any places where this shows through in the Gospels. In my experience, people with deep spirituality also have a good sense of humor, particularly about themselves. Humor is an excellent teaching tool.
I actually read somewhere about a theory that Jesus was actually a woman, or perhaps even of ambiguous gender. Now that is something that likely would not have been documented, and would likely not have been revealed to more that a few very close associates. IIRC, there was a book about this, although I can't imagine what evidence there would be and how the book would not be almost completely filled with the authors speculations.
Posted by: Gerry at November 26, 2003 06:17 PMThese theories were obviously the result of confusion with the passage of time. Jesus was human with divine aspect (as is well known), he was not part dolphin. However his *wife* was a dolphin.
Posted by: JonL at November 27, 2003 10:00 AMAlex, those are very good, strong points; the “dolphin” notion was an attempt at a reductio, but it doesn’t have the same logical status as does the claim that Jesus was married. You’re quite right.
Now, about whether Jesus was married: there is no evidence that states that he was married, none at all, from even moderately early sources. That’s not inconsequential, especially when he was strongly associated with two prominent unmarried eschatological prophets (John the Baptist and Paul). His reported teachings cohere with a position that regarded marriage as less-than-ideal for theological devotion (and there’s no mention of his marital status when the topic of marital relations or family relations appears in the gospels). On the whole, I just see no reason whatever to think Jesus married — and in this, I’m in the company of some pretty iconoclastic NT scholars; Dom Crossan, for instance, thinks Jesus couldn’t afford to marry.
Posted by: AKMA at November 27, 2003 07:48 PMChrist was without sin and that pretty much rules out the marriage theory. From my limited theological studies, including such NT scholars as Gordon Fee and Russell Spitler, the absence of a reference to Christ being married would indicate that it wasn't an issue. Bottom line - those who propose that Christ was married, including the Mormon cult, seek to make Christ more man than God, and in the process, make themselves more like God. Simply put, during his thirty-three years of maturation and entering adulthood, our Lord had no time for marriage. As to the comment about dual or feminine sexuality, all scripture points to a "son" being born to Mary. Sometimes, we think too much.
Posted by: Mike McGuire at December 29, 2003 08:52 AMThis code should compile and run just fine, and you should see no changes in how the program works. So why did we do all of that?
Posted by: Randolph at January 13, 2004 04:38 AMThe rest of our conversion follows a similar vein. Instead of going through line by line, let's just compare end results: when the transition is complete, the code that used to read:
Posted by: Anne at January 13, 2004 04:38 AMThis variable is then used in various lines of code, holding values given it by variable assignments along the way. In the course of its life, a variable can hold any number of variables and be used in any number of different ways. This flexibility is built on the precept we just learned: a variable is really just a block of bits, and those bits can hold whatever data the program needs to remember. They can hold enough data to remember an integer from as low as -2,147,483,647 up to 2,147,483,647 (one less than plus or minus 2^31). They can remember one character of writing. They can keep a decimal number with a huge amount of precision and a giant range. They can hold a time accurate to the second in a range of centuries. A few bits is not to be scoffed at.
Posted by: Oliver at January 13, 2004 04:39 AM