A former student of mine (Hi, Tim!), now a pastor (in Florida, Tim?), sent me an email message this afternoon asking if I had access to the ttext of the Nicene Creed in Greek. Well, duh! Of course I did; but it was in one of the proprietary typeface layouts that were foisted on us in the pre-Unicode era. So — having nothing to do other than grade exams, evaluate papers, pack for California, attend to my family, and eat dinner politely — I went through and re-entered the text as Unicode. Use at your own peril; I haven’t had enough time to give it a good proofreading.
I used Gentium, a Unicode typeface developed by Victor Gaultney (I could have sworn I had a Greek student named “Victor Gaultney,” too, but if so it evidently wasn’t this Victor) of the Summer Institute of Linguistics; I think many modern default browser typefaces recognize Unicode these days, but go get Gentium (roman and italic) anyway. It’s free and it’s handsome. I’ll paste in the Creed below.
??? ??? ?? ?????? ?? ?????, ?? ??????, ?? ????????,
?? ?? ??? ?????? ?????????????
?? ??? ????? ??? ??? ????????????????? ??? ??????????????,
?? ??????? ??? ??? ????????.
??? ????, ?????, ????????? ??? ??????????? ?????????.
??????? ?? ???????? ??? ?????? ????????.
???????? ????????? ??????, ??? ???? ??? ????????? ??????.
[Later] Well, that’s a sad failure. Here’s an RTF file, with the Unicode version of the text. It comes up nicely in Safari — I don’t know about other browsers.
Posted by AKMA at December 13, 2003 06:03 PM | TrackBackI get lots of ?'s
Posted by: dwight at December 13, 2003 06:34 PMis it just because i come from a non-creedal tradition that I get ?'s ...
Posted by: Trevor at December 13, 2003 06:39 PMThe question marks come naturally to you, Trevor; and Dwight, being a student of the Great Books, is no doubt a questioner himself.
The problem comes from getting the text from Mellel into a browser-HTML editor. . . .
Posted by: AKMA at December 13, 2003 06:57 PMThank you! I had to download the font (painfully slow through my 28.8 dialup connection) but it did display for me.
I put up a screenshot here for those who don't have the fonts installed: http://tntluoma.com/temp/apostles-creed-greek.png
Also, I was in Florida until June... we recently moved to Gallipolis, Ohio... now before you go hunting for a map, let me give you some help.. it's in the southeastern part of the state, right on the Ohio river, and across from Point Pleasant, West Virginia. If you've seen "The Mothman Prophecies" (first of all, I'm sorry) the movie takes place mostly in Point Pleasant.
We found a lovely house right on a lake http://tntluoma.com/newhouse/... about the only drawback is the lack of high speed Internet access at the house. We do have DSL at the church.
Thanks again, Dr. A! Glad I didn't take you away from anything important :-D
(Backstory: I have a very member of my congregation who has been looking for this for some time, and he happened to mention it to me during a pastoral visit. Hopefully he meant he was looking for the actual Greek and not a transliteration!)
BTW I think you wanted “ but accidentally entered &ldqu;; in the original post.
Tim,
(a) For precision’s sake, it’s the Nicene Creed, not the Apostles’ Creed.
(b) Congratulations, I think, on your move to Ohio.
(c) Tell Traci I’ve never dealt with a friendlier, more competent banker. Of course, I’ve never dealt with another banker whose husband I was going to grade.
(d) A very learned, or old, or important member of your congregation?
(e) That ;ldqu;; problem is a bug in either NetNewsWire or Movable Type — I haven’t bothered to pin down which (maybe their interaction). Thanks for the tip that I missed it again.
Posted by: AKMA at December 13, 2003 09:05 PMfor a second I thought you were prescient, then remembered my homepage... :P
Posted by: dwight at December 13, 2003 11:57 PMI have the spiritual gift of hyperlinks. . . .
Posted by: AKMA at December 14, 2003 05:34 AMa) I knew what I meant :-)
b) Yes, the move to Ohio has been good. Florida's heat was getting to us, and it was time to go. We did leave some good friends behind. We're in a small town that we both really enjoy.
c) Will pass the word on to Tracey. She's now full-time mom to Ethan ("post an URL" you say? OK! I'll use it for my URL for this post, so if you click on my name you'll get to the Daily Dose of Ethan). Speaking of which, we had his music playing in the car Saturday, and I've had "Father Abraham, had many sons.... many sons had Father Abraham" stuck in my head for 3 days. Any known cures that don't involve a ball ping hammer and an ice pick through the ear? It is worse now that I have (again) managed to muck up my iPod :-/
d) The member in question was born in 1910, so that makes him 93. He's looking for a copy of the Greek text of the Nicene Creed (Hrm... I do hope I have remembered that right and that it wasn't the Apostles Creed...) so I guess that would make him learned... as for important... Not sure how to answer that... he isn't a power broker in the church, to be sure, and doesn't have much family around. He is beloved by the congregation, who keep him at the top of his prayer list.
e) That's why I hand code my web pages :-)
Posted by: TjL at December 15, 2003 02:54 PMNote the new asterisks whenever we reference favoriteNumber, except for that new line right before the return.
Posted by: Lawrence at January 12, 2004 10:10 PMThis will allow us to use a few functions we didn't have access to before. These lines are still a mystery for now, but we'll explain them soon. Now we'll start working within the main function, where favoriteNumber is declared and used. The first thing we need to do is change how we declare the variable. Instead of
Posted by: Juliana at January 12, 2004 10:10 PMWhen a variable is finished with it's work, it does not go into retirement, and it is never mentioned again. Variables simply cease to exist, and the thirty-two bits of data that they held is released, so that some other variable may later use them.
Posted by: Robert at January 12, 2004 10:10 PM